Loren Feldman, you bring a level of immediacy to video and blogging that I strive to achieve - all of your content, from short to long, profound to flighty, just has that genuine, unidirectional feeling. Also, your guests aren’t talking to the camera, they’re talking to you. Keep up the great work, man.
Sorry if I’m the first one with balls to stand up to your comment, but what’s so special about web apps?
You apparently love that these apps will integrate with the datebook, calendar, etc. and will allow easy access to various web services. But aren’t these features already available for Symbian, Windows Mobile, and BlackBerry OS? As far as I know, they are!
Loren, you’re an intelligent guy and I’m sure you can agree with me that Apple’s edge is not their products, but their marketing. It takes someone like Steve Jobs to get noticed and the other guys don’t have that.
So there’s no reason to tout the iPhone as the God of all phones. It’s just a well marketed communication device.
Um, so I have to wait for EDGE to connect for an app to launch? EDGE takes 10-15 seconds to connect. Lots of places don’t have EDGE coverage. What then?
That’s not a snappy user experience.
The iPhone can be no better than the AT&T network it runs on.
Java is supported by every phone out there now. Why not make an SDK to extend the iPhone capabilities to Java. Flash is catching up too! Now developers will be able to make one distribution for every current platform, and then one special one for the iPhone.
The answer to “why no java?” I suspect is battery life. Neither java nor flash are particularly processor efficient. A hard working processor is a processor that sucks a lot of juice.
I think the only thing Apple’s done here is really upset some developers by making a non-development sound like something big and exciting.
What I’m getting from this is that essentially the Safari browser on the iPhone will run the web-apps (within the browser) that are already available on the web.
Honestly, I don’t see what’s so revolutionary and world changing about that. A quick search for iPhone web apps pulls up a whole schlew of angry apple head developers (including John Gruber of Daring Fireball fame) who are none too impressed either.
My Palm-based Treo has been running the web apps I subscribe to for years now, and the world has yet to be set ablaze by it.
Not trying to be an Apple hater here — far from it. I’m just one of those rare individuals who is impressed by truly innovative innovation.
“just 5 hours of battery life: I’m wondering how you can call it iâ€ÂPhoneâ€Â, it’s just a toy-phone.”
Are you being sarcastic, or do you just seriously not understand the lifespan of electronic devices on a single charge? Most cell phones fall into the 3-5 hour range, with only a scant few pulling up to 7. (All “specced” time, not necessarily real-world.)
In similar product categories, the Treo 755p is at 4 1/4 hours. Samsung’s i730 is listed at only 2 1/4 hours, though their new Blackjack is at 5 1/2. Those are all just talk time hours, too, and probably get soaked more for wireless use. (Probably why the i730’s so low, actually.)
Just what in heck are you getting at?
Also, I am–for reference–posting this from a “toy” laptop that gets well under 5 hours operation time, no matter how much power you try to save.
Dude, I’ve been away too long, now you have a shirt on. LOL
I was up on the iPhone when I first saw it, and I ooh and ahhh-ed, but now that the time has come, I’m waiting to see what all the regular folk reviewers have to say about it once they play with it for awhile…AFTER the initial thrill has worn off. They will be the most solid reviews in my book
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But if there’s no Flash support it will be sad.
ReplyYup, that would really suck.
ReplyLoren Feldman, you bring a level of immediacy to video and blogging that I strive to achieve - all of your content, from short to long, profound to flighty, just has that genuine, unidirectional feeling. Also, your guests aren’t talking to the camera, they’re talking to you. Keep up the great work, man.
ReplyThank you Ryan. I’m blushing, and so thankful that some people dig what I’m trying to do. Thank you so much for the encouragement.
ReplySteve Ballmer fears the iPhone.
ReplySorry if I’m the first one with balls to stand up to your comment, but what’s so special about web apps?
You apparently love that these apps will integrate with the datebook, calendar, etc. and will allow easy access to various web services. But aren’t these features already available for Symbian, Windows Mobile, and BlackBerry OS? As far as I know, they are!
Loren, you’re an intelligent guy and I’m sure you can agree with me that Apple’s edge is not their products, but their marketing. It takes someone like Steve Jobs to get noticed and the other guys don’t have that.
So there’s no reason to tout the iPhone as the God of all phones. It’s just a well marketed communication device.
ReplyUm, so I have to wait for EDGE to connect for an app to launch? EDGE takes 10-15 seconds to connect. Lots of places don’t have EDGE coverage. What then?
That’s not a snappy user experience.
The iPhone can be no better than the AT&T network it runs on.
Replyjust 5 hours of battery life: I’m wondering how you can call it i”Phone”, it’s just a toy-phone.
I’m not saying that it has no good features at all, but…c’mon man, only 5 hours of pleasure?!
Does anybody noticed the official tech specs?
ReplyI’m sorry but I’m really going crazy with that 5 hours stuff, I can’t believe it.
I hope it’s an error.
Shaun,
Web apps are huge because it will immediately get developers on board easily.
David,
We need to wait until release to know for sure.
Will this product be perfect in first model? Of course not, but it will be pretty fucking sick I think.
ReplyLoren,
Java is supported by every phone out there now. Why not make an SDK to extend the iPhone capabilities to Java. Flash is catching up too! Now developers will be able to make one distribution for every current platform, and then one special one for the iPhone.
Yup. Makes a lot of sense to me…
ReplyThen why did they bother making a dedicated gmail application for the phone when it can be accessed via Safari?
Web applications are not phone applications. Period.
ReplyThe answer to “why no java?” I suspect is battery life. Neither java nor flash are particularly processor efficient. A hard working processor is a processor that sucks a lot of juice.
ReplyI think the only thing Apple’s done here is really upset some developers by making a non-development sound like something big and exciting.
What I’m getting from this is that essentially the Safari browser on the iPhone will run the web-apps (within the browser) that are already available on the web.
Honestly, I don’t see what’s so revolutionary and world changing about that. A quick search for iPhone web apps pulls up a whole schlew of angry apple head developers (including John Gruber of Daring Fireball fame) who are none too impressed either.
My Palm-based Treo has been running the web apps I subscribe to for years now, and the world has yet to be set ablaze by it.
Not trying to be an Apple hater here — far from it. I’m just one of those rare individuals who is impressed by truly innovative innovation.
Reply“just 5 hours of battery life: I’m wondering how you can call it iâ€ÂPhoneâ€Â, it’s just a toy-phone.”
Are you being sarcastic, or do you just seriously not understand the lifespan of electronic devices on a single charge? Most cell phones fall into the 3-5 hour range, with only a scant few pulling up to 7. (All “specced” time, not necessarily real-world.)
In similar product categories, the Treo 755p is at 4 1/4 hours. Samsung’s i730 is listed at only 2 1/4 hours, though their new Blackjack is at 5 1/2. Those are all just talk time hours, too, and probably get soaked more for wireless use. (Probably why the i730’s so low, actually.)
Just what in heck are you getting at?
Also, I am–for reference–posting this from a “toy” laptop that gets well under 5 hours operation time, no matter how much power you try to save.
ReplyMark,
ReplyThank you! Somebody understands!
Dude, I’ve been away too long, now you have a shirt on. LOL
I was up on the iPhone when I first saw it, and I ooh and ahhh-ed, but now that the time has come, I’m waiting to see what all the regular folk reviewers have to say about it once they play with it for awhile…AFTER the initial thrill has worn off. They will be the most solid reviews in my book
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