Everything about it looks great. The packaging, the design, the name are elegant, clean, functional and witty. I’ve always admired how Apple knows who they are and consistently brands that way.
Non-geeks don’t think, ‘Hey, I need a database for that’ when it comes to their personal stuff. They might buy a home inventory program that’s built on top of a database, but they don’t know (or care) about the database aspect. They care about what the program does for them.
Also, Filemaker is technically an Apple subsidiary; they generally try to keep some separation between the two companies so I don’t see Bento getting pulled into iWork or iLife.
I might be wrong, of course: I work for a company that could be considered a Filemaker competitor so I am not 100% objective about all this.
I got to play with the pre-release back in November (I wrote about it for either TUAW or DownloadSquad, can’t remember which one now) and I agree - it’s a very, very cool application. There are a lot more tasks that can be tackled using a database program than most home users think - and making the product easy to use and the interface and compatibility and dead-on is the key to helping people become more productive.
I’ve been using it for the last two months as a wardrobe database (I have so many clothes, I often forget what I own) to sort and inventory items by brand, type, size, color, dry-clean status, length, occasion-type, etc. It’s made packing (a task I hate) so much easier.
Enjoyed your video on Bento. Just to clarify that Bento does have mathematical and relational capabilities. If you want more details, I’d be happy to send them…
I’ve been reading the Bento forum for several days now (also have Bento), and the conclusion I’m reaching is that Bento is all glitz but little substance. If you read the forum, you’ll find countless people asking how to do such and such - the “official” response is often: “Bento doesn’t do that now, but I’ve sent your comments to the development team for consideration.”
PLEASE do note the ENORMOUS restriction of BENTO : it is not truly relationnal IN PRACTICE. When you include into a form a link to a record in another set of datas here is what goe on :
- you cannot double click and jump to the linked file, so if you view the invoice, you cannot jump to inspect the client..
- you cannot search for records using values of linked fields, so you cannot list invoices of client X!
- you cannot choose which data to view : you can only view a table form.. so you cannot incorporate the adress on an invoice!
So I doubt they will greatly improve that, cause it would considerably reduce the value of Filemaker big brother app..
SO so.. this is only good for STRAIGHT FILING, and it’s great for that, but although the idea of incorporating the adress book is great, you cannot really do anything with these adresses.. a little.. catch in the eyes!!
I checked this out a little bit ago. Looks like it would be really good for home inventory… and inventory in general.
ReplyI like the dueling review. Kind of a good cop bad cop thing.
ReplyEverything about it looks great. The packaging, the design, the name are elegant, clean, functional and witty. I’ve always admired how Apple knows who they are and consistently brands that way.
Reply“the other thing…;\”
stop dragging your girlfriend into your Geek mode.
Replyzx,
ReplyShes one of us she loves the mothership. Don’t worry I wont fuck up her vibe. Hows the baby?
Non-geeks don’t think, ‘Hey, I need a database for that’ when it comes to their personal stuff. They might buy a home inventory program that’s built on top of a database, but they don’t know (or care) about the database aspect. They care about what the program does for them.
Also, Filemaker is technically an Apple subsidiary; they generally try to keep some separation between the two companies so I don’t see Bento getting pulled into iWork or iLife.
I might be wrong, of course: I work for a company that could be considered a Filemaker competitor so I am not 100% objective about all this.
ReplyI didn’t see Bento coming. Neat idea: I think I’ll go play. You’re right — being a consumer product, you’d expect iTunes integration at some point.
Replyis this woman your mom ?
ReplyI got to play with the pre-release back in November (I wrote about it for either TUAW or DownloadSquad, can’t remember which one now) and I agree - it’s a very, very cool application. There are a lot more tasks that can be tackled using a database program than most home users think - and making the product easy to use and the interface and compatibility and dead-on is the key to helping people become more productive.
I’ve been using it for the last two months as a wardrobe database (I have so many clothes, I often forget what I own) to sort and inventory items by brand, type, size, color, dry-clean status, length, occasion-type, etc. It’s made packing (a task I hate) so much easier.
ReplyI agree Christina very cool little app.
ReplyLong time no talk my brother
ReplyHey there,
Enjoyed your video on Bento. Just to clarify that Bento does have mathematical and relational capabilities. If you want more details, I’d be happy to send them…
Check it out at http://www.bentotrial.com
Reply- Beth at FileMaker
I’ve been reading the Bento forum for several days now (also have Bento), and the conclusion I’m reaching is that Bento is all glitz but little substance. If you read the forum, you’ll find countless people asking how to do such and such - the “official” response is often: “Bento doesn’t do that now, but I’ve sent your comments to the development team for consideration.”
ReplyIt’s cool. you get what you pay for, y’know…
ReplyPLEASE do note the ENORMOUS restriction of BENTO : it is not truly relationnal IN PRACTICE. When you include into a form a link to a record in another set of datas here is what goe on :
- you cannot double click and jump to the linked file, so if you view the invoice, you cannot jump to inspect the client..
- you cannot search for records using values of linked fields, so you cannot list invoices of client X!
- you cannot choose which data to view : you can only view a table form.. so you cannot incorporate the adress on an invoice!
So I doubt they will greatly improve that, cause it would considerably reduce the value of Filemaker big brother app..
SO so.. this is only good for STRAIGHT FILING, and it’s great for that, but although the idea of incorporating the adress book is great, you cannot really do anything with these adresses.. a little.. catch in the eyes!!
Hi from france..
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